Monday, June 16, 2008

Eugenics , sciene of Varnaashram Discussion

[I] Could you please explain this Vipra Genetic Instinct?

Can you please tell me one thing in Kerela, There was a rule that marriages between Namboodiris (Brahmins) of north kerela and south kerela are not right. In north Kerela there are 25 Namboodiri families, lets understand the permutation and combination reaches a stage where all 25 are inter related somehow, then arent many of them first cousins. Then what will these Vipras do to marry.

Ok lets come to the subject back. You all are saying there are Vipras and a Vipra Man should marry a girl of a lower caste, so that he dominates her and her "psycho somatic body."

Can you please explain what is it that SCIENTIFICALLY proves that this will give good offsprings?

Here is a very important question also pertaining to Mbh.

In the Mbh it is said all the western regions Vahlika Madra Kerelas etc. did not have fixed caste system they used to become kshatriyas Shudras at will. Then what happened when this population mingled with the rest of India, wasn't the genetic code disturbed ?

So what you are saying may just be very wrong...

Ok now one more Query, a Non Vipra by birth Valmiki becomes a Vipra by Karma, do his genetics change?

If yes then how can you bet your life on this Varna system as anybodies genetics can change anytime.

If no then there was nothing wrong with Valmikis genes as it had the capability of making a Maharishi, then whatever is being said here is non sense.[/I]

Could you please explain this Vipra Genetic Instinct?

its just genetics of dis specific Varna, like there is any race A, so, its specific genetic instinct A, n like dis for all caste/race/VARNA

Can you please tell me one thing in Kerela, There was a rule that marriages between Namboodiris (Brahmins) of north kerela and south kerela are not right. In north Kerela there are 25 Namboodiri families, lets understand the permutation and combination reaches a stage where all 25 are inter related somehow, then arent many of them first cousins. Then what will these Vipras do to marry.

See, Kerala rule ws not due to VARNA-ASHRAM, bt it may be due to sm other reason, we take decision on d basis of alot of things, n while making decision, we often find Trade-off, so we hav to choose whch option we hav to choose for us,
So, in kerela, other reason would be , which ws wrong in VARNA-ASRAM perspective,

abt 25 family, u just hav to see, they couldn't inter-mingled widin father's 7 gen and mother 5 gen, dats all, if its then ok... else they need to expand d pool,
if pool will be v-less no, then obviously there will be problem, abt sub-caste n region, it doesn't matter, since due to lack of transportation and communication and due to speicific rituals n sects problem, one particular VARNA/CASTE married in teir own in dat region only, there is no any base against it, so if there were NORTH-SOUTH kerela ban, it ws wrong....

Ok lets come to the subject back. You all are saying there are Vipras and a Vipra Man should marry a girl of a lower caste, so that he dominates her and her "psycho somatic body."

first of all, don see i hierarchical perspective, rather see it in diverse nature,like if there is circle, all radius wire is at d same level bt wid diff direction, there is 4 direction, east,west, north, south... see all social group identity wid dese healthy view, NEVER wid hierarchaical view, all r equal bt different.


Ok lets come to the subject back. You all are saying there are Vipras and a Vipra Man should marry a girl of a other caste, so that he dominates her and her "psycho somatic body."

Continue...

see.... Varna-ashra ws destroyed 2500 years ago, so now we hav caste-system, bt principle of VARNA-ASRAM we can follow (if ur wishes is then ),

we hav around 7000 caste, we cannot say which caste belongs to which VARNA, bt generally since Indian society ws highly endogamy , so generally most of d cast belongs to one particular race, bt ya as i hav already told , diff. caste may belongs to one particular race, bt we don know, as we don hav proof,

2ndly, since we cannot marry more than one (a/c to rule ) n dis is right too, one MAN-one Women best........marital policy,

so better marry widin caste, else if ur sure sm other caste belongs to ur race then ok else if u r sure other race is compatible to ur race then ok, (a/c to VARNASHRAM RULE )

Can you please explain what is it that SCIENTIFICALLY proves that this will give good offsprings?

Rohit, see it totally depends upon ur trust noth else, bcos wid modern science perspective, u don know abt d truth,

bt as u know, as science r moving ahead , our traditional vedic science n rule etc.. is proved to truth like there were time, wen science student were used to scoff abt YOGA/ MEDITATION/ MANTRA/ GEM/ RUDRAKSHA/ ASTROLOGY/ AYURVEDA etc....

now see today, its truth....

so , a/c to this empiricism , we can find dat it too may be proved truth,
2ndly, if u'll marry wid other caste there may be wrong/neutral/gud thing, bt if u'll follow endogamy (wid exogamy ) (SAME CASTE/RACE, DIFF. GOTRA, FATHER 7 GEN+MOTHER 5 GEN, ASTROLOGY + other compatibility u decide urself), watever result will be , it'll be gud or neutral, most probably it'llbe gud only, bcos mixing may lead to deformed genes, bt widin race, it won distort, all other th. depends upon ur trust on dis VARNA-ASHRM rule,


a Non Vipra by birth Valmiki becomes a Vipra by Karma, do his genetics change?

If yes then how can you bet your life on this Varna system as anybodies genetics can change anytime.


Saint (with great regards ) Valmiki Ji becam Brahman due to his KARMA, bt his next generation would not get VIPRA GENETIC instinct as it require 7 consecutive VIPRA KARMA to move one ladder in VARNA-SHRAM rule,

bt as i hav already told u in my previous post, dat if any VIPRA follow Brahmanic life, then he'll be called as BRAHMAN, now his next generation too will follow so on...

similarly if any varna follow Brahmanic life style, he'll be BRAHMAN, bt his next gen. would not hav VIPRA genetic instinct naturally, bcos genes doesn't change so easily, it takes time to change sm genetic features to become INBORN INSTINCT,

bt if his next generation too will follow Brahmanic life style, he too wil be BRAHMAN, again his next gen. wouldn't hav VIPRA genetic instinct, bt his next gen. too can follow again... n if dis process continue ..den after 7-14-21 generation, his next generation would hav VIPRA genetic instinct,

means Brahman (by karma not by birth(vipra )) next generation again can be Brhamn by karma bt not by genes just after 1 generation, it depends upon his level, 7-14-21....

If no then there was nothing wrong with Valmikis genes as it had the capability of making a Maharishi, then whatever is being said here is non sense.


ofcourse, anyone may be BRAHMAN by karma, bt having inborn instinct, you will hav to follow atlest 7 consecutive generation ....
and hey, plz bear wid us dear, its not my theory, bt its VARNA-SHRAM theory,n its no nonsense bt it has sm sense, although it totally depends upon d person whether s/he wants to follow it or not, its just sharing of knowledge.

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